Charlize Theron Travels to THE VALLEY OF ELAH
By Bonnie Siegler
With all the confidence an Academy Award can give you, former Oscar winner Charlize Theron (2004’s “Monster”), enters The Four Seasons Hotel in Beverly Hills looking every inch of her statuesque 5’ 91/2” a definite Hollywood movie star. In a champagne silk blouse tucked into dark jeans and blonde hair pulled back revealing gold filigree earrings, the 32 year-old actress known for her risky and unexpected roles (“North Country”, “Aeon Flux”, “The Life and Death of Peter Sellers”), is also a determined activist for Africa. The South African native, with the encouragement and support of her mother, left her home in South Africa at age thirteen to attend a boarding school for the Performing Arts. Just three years later, her mom sent Charlize to Milan in the hopes her young daughter’s good looks, confidence and of course, long legs, would propel her into the Italian modeling world. And guess what, Charlize became a sought after model but wasn’t content to rely on just her outward beauty. Moviegoers were first introduced to the seductive charm of Theron in her feature film debut “2 Days in the Valley” opposite James Spader, Eric Stoltz and Jeff Daniels. As her star climbed the Hollywood ladder, other leading men included Al Pacino and Keanu Reeves in “Devil’s Advocate”, Tom Hanks in “That Thing You Do”, Tobey Maguire in “The Cider House Rules”, Johnny Depp in “The Astronaut’s Wife”, Robert Redford, Robert DeNiro, Will Smith, Matt Damon and many more.
But her main leading man off-screen is actor Stuart Townsend, her boyfriend and constant companion for the last six years. In fact, the couple love to explore the globe together, just having returned from the rain forests in Belize. Today, Charlize is poised to talk about her current role as police detective Emily Sanders in Paul Haggis’ “In The Valley of Elah”, a film inspired by true events. Co-starring two other former Oscar winners – Tommy Lee Jones and Susan Sarandon – Theron once again morphs for the viewers into a struggling single mom in a small town who is decidedly unglamorous. The film tells the story of a war veteran, his wife and the search for their son, a soldier who recently returned from the Iraq War but has gone missing, and the police detective who helps in the investigation. A: I got to know Paul while I was nominated for North Country. We were doing the awards circle, he was doing it for Crash. And the two of us were, like, the only losers in an alley smoking cigarettes. He told me about this project; he was still writing it. We kind of kept running into each other and he kept talking about it, it sounded fascinating. He had emailed me a script when he was in Italy; I read it, and the next day I said, ‘Count me in.’ It’s usually a combination for me trying to find good, solid material that I’m really interested in, but it’s just as important to me to find a director that I really want to work with. I really, really wanted to work with Paul. A: It was the story. It’s always the story, always. You can have the best character in the world in a crap story and it doesn’t matter, so I’d rather be in a good movie. And whether I’m in it for two minutes or two hours, that doesn’t matter to me. A: To me this was a human story. It was about people, it was the truth. Politically I didn’t feel like this carried any kind of agenda. I didn’t feel like there was any liberal or democratic or republican kind of message behind it. I didn’t feel like it was pro-war or against war. I felt like this was just the truth about the realities of we’re at war and we are A: It wasn’t. It was something I never talked to Paul about. It was there. I think it’s very truthful, just from all the research I had done on North Country, you know? What I liked about it was that he brought it in, and what I think is very truthful–I always said this when I was doing North Country–that a lot of this stuff happens on a very humorous level. That’s why it’s considered innocent. And I think in a way it was a little bit of a layer this movie needed. It was a very serious film. So we always treated it like what I had found in my research to be very true. I mean, these incidents with Emily are not big–not all of them, most of them are considered to be a joke. These guys don’t think they’re doing anything terribly wrong. So we never wanted to hit that kind of nail over the head, but I think he cast really great actors and we had a great time kind of playing off that. I think Emily knew. She was smart, she had thick skin, she could deal with it. It was just exhausting. A: What I liked about that was that it was something that you could consider so easily in the workforce. Being kind of what the guys are thinking it is–that she slept her way on top. And the irony of it is that she actually really fell in love with this guy and he was married. She had an affair. She got pregnant. She decided to have the baby. Love that, you know? How not right, you know? How not accepted. But that’s the truth of a lot of people. And I liked that she carried her head high, and said, ‘You know what? That’s fine. I got myself in this situation.’ But I think she really truly cared for this guy. She could never have him. I thought that was a really nice little complication for her in the story. And that everybody around her just thought that she did it because she was a slut. That was really not who she was. A: Well, what I liked—best detective next to Tommy Lee Jones’ character. I loved that. I said to Paul, ‘I’m starting to feel like those classic, ’60’s television programs where you’re just kind of like one step behind, out of the loop every single time, Dah!’ But I loved that she was very flawed and she wasn’t the greatest detective but she really had heard. And she went after it as hard as she possibly could. She wasn’t necessarily… You know, how boring to play the guy who always gets it right. It was a nice layer, I thought. And I thought it really helped with the chemistry between me and Tommy’s character. A: Yeah, I did in Albuquerque where we shot some of this. Really because I was intrigued with interrogation scenes and I wanted to hear what that was really like. And we had a really big one that I thought was really important in this film and I wanted to do it as truthful as possible. And I didn’t really have a lot to pull from, so I wanted to hear from somebody what it was really like to interrogate people and how do you really get information out of people? It turned out to be really boring (laughs). You’re not supposed to lose your cool. You’re not supposed to be all overly dramatic. It’s supposed to be a very normal conversation, a very reasonable conversation. And I think that Paul initially really wrote it that way, so that was important for me to know that we weren’t doing something that wasn’t true. It’s always important for me on all those levels. I don’t want to go and do something that’s too showy. It’s interesting for me to go and find the truth. A: I loved him. I loved working with him. I think he’s incredibly talented. I was very intimidated at first. And I actually owe Frances McDormand a lot because I had talked to her when I had decided to this and Paul was going to have Tommy do it. I said, ‘How is it working with him?’ And she said, ‘You know, you just give him a big hug every time you see him and it just drops his guard.’ (laughs) And I did the first time I saw him, I gave him a big hug. From that moment on he just kind of took me under his wing and we had a great respect for each other and worked really hard and well together. Yeah, I had a great time working with him, definitely. It’s great to be in a ton of scenes with somebody that really kind of keeps you on your toes. Q: Along those same lines, how was it acting with not only the actors, but the soldiers who were actually over fighting in Iraq? I thought they did an excellent job of acting. A: It was a combination of a few things because at first I looked at Paul and I said, ‘Are you sure about this?’ Because we were on a tight schedule. There were very big, big scenes with these guys. Very important scenes. And he said, ‘Trust me,’ and I did. Those guys showed up and I was blown away. I couldn’t tell the difference between the actors and the real soldiers. I actually became really good friends with one of them. I think in a way it was so incredibly helpful to have them around all the time. Just to stay on the road of truth. And on a human level, I’m just fascinated, too, and intrigued by what they have experienced, where they are and how they felt. It was great having them around, and amazing, amazing actors. And I know why - because I think all of this is so fresh for them. And that really was what this work is about - the truth of their lives. A: I’ve always had a great value for it and I think it’s from being a ballerina for 12 years and never having words. I’m not a fan of words. Directors hate me sometimes because I have a very clear understanding of how powerful the physical can be. I played a swan and I never had any feathers or said anything, you know, but I was a swan. So the physical to me is incredible. I think it’s something that you can have an entire monologue and sometimes as an actor we get lost in these kind of showy moments. I really have no desire for a monologue like some actors. And when Paul started writing my part, I was like, `Can you cut down on the lines, please?’ In a way that’s why I liked this character because I had never done anything really like that. I tend to play the Tommy Lee part in films, the emotionally driven character, and it was really interesting to be the actor in the scene that wasn’t emotionally driven. There are levels of it but nothing close to what Tommy has to go through and in many ways I’m there to pass along a lot of information. That was a huge challenge for me. So it was great. There were a couple of times, little tiny moments, like the day after she finds the young girl in the bath tub and she’s sitting at her desk. Paul had written that this secretary come over and she’s giving me the bank statements. He said, `So she’s going to come up and she’s going to say …’ And I said Oh, no, no, no. I can’t say anything. I’m guilt ridden. There’s no way. I can’t look anybody in the eye. I mean I fucked up.’ So that was a great example of just really understanding that there were no words needed there. There was nothing needed there. Those are usually my favorite moments. I always say I’m a really good actor when I’m A: Yeah, I will strip it down to the bare bones but the good thing about having a director like Paul is that he covers all bases and then he does it editorially so it’s one of those things when I’m doing it, in my head I might say `God, this really doesn¹t feel right.’ But I know that Paul, at the end of the day, can always lose it. If there’s a hole in the story, you might need that point. So it’s kind of one of those give and takes. But yeah, I would have loved to have been in silent films. [Laughs] Q: Not exactly a silent film, you’re in a big budget Will Smith movie now, “Tonight, he Comes”. Can you talk a little about that? A: It’s been a great experience and a really, really great film to work on. I would make a film about tape recorders if Will Smith was in it because I love working with him. I just think he’s an incredible actor and I love the experience of being around him. I love Jason Bateman too. I thought it was a really well written piece that wasn¹t just fluff, you know. A: No, it’s all different. That’s like saying I’m not going to do another genre-based film. I don’t believe in that. It’s two completely different stories. Completely different. A: They’re all different in different ways. They’re all challenging in different ways. I find “John Hancock” a challenge because it’s not something that I’m familiar with. It’s not a comfort zone for me. You throw me in a drama and I know I can swim. I like that challenge and what I love about this piece is that it’s very complicated. It really crosses over so many different genres. And it’s really interesting to shoot out of continuity and to figure out where you’re heading. There’s a lot of heavy stuff. A: I think I’m like the only actor who hasn’t shot a film in South Africa and I’m the goddamned South African. It’s just ridiculous. So I would love to shoot something in South Africa. That would just be amazing. I’m always struggling to try to find the time to go home so that would be amazing to do it for a job. But yes, I am going back towards the end of the year. I don’t know exactly what months or when. We’re trying to figure out the dates but it will be after “John Hancock” to go and do the African Outreach Program. We’re building the mobile clinics for the last six months and they’re almost finished. I’m very excited to go and do that. A: Yeah. I will be traveling into very rural communities with them and bringing anti-viral drugs to communities and education. I’m very excited about it. A: I actually just became a citizen this year and I’ve lived in Los Angeles for 13 years. I lived here altogether almost 16 year. I’ve been in America for 16 years and have always considered this my home, a different kind of home, you know. I put my feet down in African soil and something happens to my blood but I live here as well and I consider this my home. Maybe coming from a country like South Africa that has gone through so much turmoil, that’s the way I grew up, so maybe I’m interested in what a newspaper has to say, but I also believe in independent press so I’m always looking at it from both sides just like I think anybody else would in America. I think when you go into a war, it’s pretty impossible to go through your life and not run into people and talk about it. I don¹t know how people could do that. It’s part of what we’re going through right now so, of course, I think just in general there is a debate going on in this country and I’m interested in what other people have to say. It doesn’t necessarily come from a South African point of view. I think it just comes from a human point of view. It wasn’t the basis of this film and I loved that. I would have been scared of this movie if it was. I loved that we always went back to these human beings and then the circumstances that they were in. But I think just in general, people were talking about it a lot because it was happening and we had real soldiers around us. I wanted to know what that experience was like. I don’t know; I wasn’t there. So I was very interested to hear their point of views.
Q: I understand you were the first on board with this. Can you talk a little bit about your first chats with Paul Haggis. He said he’s been talking to you for a couple of years while he was writing this film.
Q: Was it the story or the character in particular that drew you in.?
Q: Given the political situation currently and the script’s basis, what were the biggest message points that came across to you personally when you read the script?
sending these very young kids over there to go and do something that very few of us would go and do. And I have a great respect for that. But they’re coming back here, and we can’t expect them to kind of fit back into society and be normal, functioning citizens. It’s just not going to happen. We have to give them the right tools and we’re not. So that to me was something, obviously, that kind of touched me because I’ve met people who’ve gone over there and fought. And to hear them come back and not be looked after, I think that’s very ungrateful and we can’t do that. But this story was the truth. It really happened. That to me was heartbreaking. My character was never part of the real story. But as a story that really just, on a human level, really connected with me. I thought it
was heartbreaking, so I really wanted to tell it.
Q: Charlize, there’s an element of Emily’s story, too, though–her world, where she’s not accepted for various reasons like so many women in the workplace are these days. Just for being a woman. And also how she got her job. Or at least how the guys around her perceive that. How important was it to you for that to be an element of her character?
Q: But what about the element of her sleeping her way into the job? The Josh Brolin character, her boss at the department, was the guy that got her the promotion because they had been lovers.
Q: And then she gets to show that she’s really the best detective in the group there.
Q: Did you spend time with female detectives?
Q: Could you talk about working with Tommy Lee? I loved watching you go toe-to-toe in scenes.
Q: Paul Haggis had an interesting comment before about in the post production, the more he edited out - because he had to cut an hour out of the film - the better it got. And it made me think about the value of stillness because there are many scenes in this film without dialogue, that it’s the character¹s behavior that we learn from and that speaks volumes about them. Is that something as an actor that you have to learn to value rather than pages of dialogue to have a good scene?
not speaking and you’re shooting me from behind. Always.
Q: When you said before that directors hate me, is that because you always are cutting lines, wanting to do this shorter?
There was a real intelligence to it, yet it was fun, but it was smart, complicated, had a lot of conflict. I don’t see a lot of that come 4th of July. I liked it.
Q: I was wondering if you had any reservations about playing another superhero – in “John Hancock”? You’ve done Aeon Flux.
Q: What do you find more challenging: the character-driven dramas like this movie or the action?
Q: Can you give us an update on the Africa Outreach Project and also, with so much film production going on in South Africa — Gavin Hood shot a lot of “Rendition” in Capetown - do you see yourself making a film there soon?
Q: So you’ll be traveling around the country with them?
Q: Did you discuss the war with the soldiers during the film production? Because you are not an American, maybe you have a different point of view?
